[ALSC-Forum] Comments on Study: ""ICANN and the Problem of Legitimacy"

[Saudia-Online]

  In order for this discussion to be beneficial and resourceful we need to
reach some type of a proposal, guiding points, and or a working plan to
reach a specific targets to be agreed on and proposed for a larger
discussion by all netizens.
 If we as members of this organization do not take the lead and the
initiative of discussing and debating these issues then I guarantee you that
one of the existing inside power houses will set this agenda for us
guaranteeing them the continuity of their Agenda and plan.

  What we are talking about here is the real globalization of the world as
they would call it, I prefer to call it the Villagization of the world
because the internet made it possible for all of us from all over this
planet to talk, discuss and debate about all of these issues as if we were
setting all together and sharing many common thoughts and concerns.  We feel
more close to the issues and concerns of each other.
  I propose that the oldest Netizen in this forum propose An Agenda and plan
of points to be discussed and targets to be  reached by all of us and for a
full schedule to be set.
Do you think that we can agree on this? or we are discussing just for the
sake of discussion?
Hadi Bahra
Hadi@saudia-online.com
"Assisting you to explore Saudi Arabia markets"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daryl Tempesta" <lyradius@yahoo.com>
To: "Saudia-Online" <hadi@saudia-online.com>; <forum@atlargestudy.org>
Cc: "Bruce Young" <byoung651@home.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Comments on Study: ""ICANN and the Problem of
Legitimacy"


> With all due respect,
>
> --- Saudia-Online <hadi@saudia-online.com> wrote:
> >
> > It sounded like you were telling me "In your dreams!
> > :-)"
> > I agree with your statement, but we have to keep on
> > trying
> > I think "he who has the means of power sets the
> > rules"
> > So in order to have the ICANN one hundred percent
> > legitimate, it should have
> > the means of being fully self financed by us the
> > Internet users of the world
> > through:
> > *Member ship fees
> > *Direct donations.
>
> I agree to this point..
>
> > * Most importantly having some fees derived from
> > domain registration.
>
> Fees derived means fees are set. Legal restrictions
> (read governing)as well as the financial conditions go
> hand in hand.
>
> I strongly dissagree with generating fees for ICANN
> through registration. Basically it would be creating a
> precident where a fully independent, international
> body thrue ICANN would be governing without
> representation or independent oversight. Paying a fee
> (read tax) is not the same as elected representation.
>
> Many of the registered domain holders have businesses,
> some quite large. And as the model of economic
> participation of the here and future, Giving the keys
> to these domains/sites to ICANN is just asking for
> trouble.
>
> It would undermine the sovernty of the governments
> whos members live and own buisnesses in. In short, bad
> idea.
>
> This would be the very first far reaching
> quasi-governing body which would create and set
> mandates and levy taxes on an international level;
> which also reaches the averge cconsumer.This could
> mutate into the begining of a world governing body.
>
> A board or commitee must not have that type of power.
>
> Only thrue formal democratic representation will
> anything even close gain support and legitamacy.
> ICANN suffers because of a lack of discipline to do
> the right thing in this regard.
>
> Its a fact that there is alot of discussion about the
> legitamacy of ICANN due to proper and fair
> representation. This shadow alone is enogh to cause
> enough distrust to sink the organization in the long
> run, even with changes to a more open system.
>
> It simply must lay aside the board squatters, and
> reinvent itself...QUICKLY; if it has a chance to rise
> to the level it is mandated to do. Anything less will
> have yet another organization to take it's place.
>
> No taxation without representation.
>
>
>
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