From: ANTHONY ORDONA
Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Comments on Study: Must groups oppose individuals - Thoughts about the ICANN at-large membership
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:07:36 -0700
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:31:03 -0700, Bruce Young wrote:
>
> Comments on Study: Must groups oppose individuals - Thoughts about the
ICANN
> at-large membership
> <http://www.connected.org/govern/ICANN-Zurich.html>
>
> >It would be easy enough to decide that the group should include only
those
> people who are domain name owners. This idea is currently under
> >discussion within the Domain Name Support Organisation (DNSO). However,
> this exclusive definition apparently leaves some dissatisfaction
> >is the "at-large" group remains on the cards. One person asked me, "What
> about those people who are interested and willing to participate in
> >the process but who do not own a domain name?" You could of course
define
> membership in terms of interest. Tacitly, this is what ICANN
> >is done. If you show interest by applying to join the at-large
membership
> and you have access to the Internet because the process is only
> >accessible via the Internet, then you can belong and vote.
>
> Yes. The stakes are too high to limit the @Large community to only those
> who hold a domain name. For every one of these, there are thousands of
> Internet users whose lives and futures will be directly affected by
> decisions made by this body. They deserve a voice.
>
> >There is no satisfactory global organisation of users of the Internet.
>
> That is what we hope the @Large community can become.
>
> >Maybe the notion of "Internet user" is no longer a sufficiently strong
> criterion for people to identify with it. Would you join an electricity
> users'
> >or a water users' organisation?
>
> Actually, as a voting citizen and taxpayer in this country, I already
have a
> great deal to say about how public utilities are managed, and direct
redress
> through city council meetings, public utility council meetings, etc., if
I
> disagree with that management. As is implied in this statement, in the
> future continuous, reliable access to the Internet is going to be just as
> critical to the safety and happiness of our lives as the other public
> utilities mentioned. Internet users need a voice in how the Internet is
> managed. The @Large community is our best shot at one.
>
> >Is there not a fundamental contradiction in wishing to "organise" people
> who seek to act in their own name as individuals, as free valences?
>
> I disagree. Every citizen in this country has their own list of issues!
> But we join interest groups. We form coalitions. We join together to
> protest. We talk to journalists. We write, call and e-mail our elected
> officials. We attend government meetings and complain. We vote for
things
> we approve of, and against things we don't. Eventually, out of all these
> disparate voices expressing their views, convincing others of the
rightness
> of their concern, and exercising their right to vote, comes policies,
laws
> and sometimes great changes to society. This process is called
consensus.
> It is the core of democracy. And it should be the at the core of how
ICANN
> works as well. That is the role I envision @Large playing.
>
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon
> byoung651@home.com
> http://members.home.net/byoung651/index.html
>
>
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As a new person to this forum I have read most of the comments posted on
this forum with interest. Mr.Young's comments hit straight to the issues
that I feel are important. Unless ICANN includes everybody who has a stake
in the internet be they supporting organizations or users,it will not be a
body that is representative of the internet community. It is important that
ICANN understand that fact and come up with a structure that will
incorporate everybody that has a interest in the internet.
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