From: Daryl Tempesta
Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Self-regulation and ICANN
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:21:40 -0700
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If there was a system to manage structure (tlds, IP,
protocalls) instead of means (politics) there would
be far less clamoring for control. because you could
add hundreds of TLDs. thus dividing power to the
masses.
Simply by adding hundreds of TLDs, representing all of
the groups that this body is trying to decide, they
would eventually begin to behave like de-facto
political party.
One TLD group associated with this or that group. And
it is starting to happen with .coop. Soon they will
have a collective voice.
Or you could continue to try to design something that
can neither avoid political control, nor be
successfully democratically ruled.
Even the US has a balance of power and you can see it
is hardly perfect. Power is derived by scarcity, there
is no scarcity which isnt artificial on the internet.
Just and idea.
--- Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> Mikael and all stakeholders or interested parties,
>
> We would agree that 100% industry self regulation
> is pure
> folly. I has never worked historically in the US or
> in any
> other country. A partnership with governments is
> necessary.
>
> Mikael Pawlo wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Esther Dyson wrote:
> > > Mikael, hi. Most people do not consider the UN
> a model of transparency or
> > > accountability. We are trying to design
> something that *would* work as such
> > > a model, and that therefore would earn
> legitimacy without inheriting it
> > > from governments of questionable legitimacy.
> >
> > I find it hard to believe that ICANN could exist
> without the co-operation
> > or at least the acceptance of the national
> governments, no matter how
> > questionable their legitimacy as you put it (the
> issue of the .kids domain
> > is a good illustration of this and it will be most
> interesting to follow
> > the development in that respect). Further, most
> governments do - in my
> > opinion - represent their citizens. Maybe one
> should try to improve
> > democracy in the states lacking thereof, but
> creating a global body of
> > corporations, non-profit organizations,
> individuals, governments and other
> > constituencies is task that would make the stone
> of Sisyphos look like a
> > ping-pong ball.
> >
> > When it comes to the UN I can appreciate the
> reluctant attitude towards
> > it, expressed by many US citizens, but it still
> has - at least in
> > theory - some built-in mechanisms for
> accountability, international
> > representation and transparancy through it's
> members.
> >
> > I am not sure the UN is the appropriate forum for
> the ICANN function, but
> > an international body created by governments is -
> again in my point of
> > view - a more reasonable road to travel than pure
> self-regulation. The
> > function as such might not be suitable for
> self-regulation in the way you
> > and others promote.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mikael
> >
> >
>
_________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > ICQ:35638414
> mailto:mikael@pawlo.com
> > +46-70 421 58 25
> http://www.pawlo.com/
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA
> Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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>
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