Re: [ALSC-Forum] Pollution

[Jeff Williams]

Jefsey and all stakeholders or interested parties,

  Thank you for you kind praise in your nicely articulated comments
below.

   I am at a total loss as to what Ken is trying to convey
or is even eluding to really.  I try to be as transparent as I can
as the spokesman for INEGroup and as an individual.  I know
Ken doe not like me very well, an possibly this explains his
outburst and the subject line of this thread.  I am not fond
of Ken either, but recognize his right to express himself
and his interests as well as those of CORE.  In this instance
I just simply believe that Ken is confused or frustrated about
something....  But I don't really know...

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

>    On 15:15 30/10/01, Ken Stubbs said:
> >Sadly... I note that "our boy" Jeff Williams has attempted another
> DeFacto
> >"take over" of a public list.
> >Too bad there isnt a system which allows one to "filter" webpage
> views of
> >list archives...
>
> I am afraid that if we were reviewing all the participants to any
> ICANN
> mailing list we might be surprised by the quality and the morality of
> many
> particpants. One of the principle of our new society fitting well the
> network architecture is the principle of "indiferenciation". It means
> that
> one does not consider the "mines" (background, culture, money,power)
> etc or
> any "me" in a community and just consider them at their face value.
> This is
> the most secure way to be ready to welcome everyone, be representative
> of
> all the concerns and not to cast detrimental exclusives depriving the
> community from precious inputs.
>
> I have always considered seriously the inputs of Mr. Jeff Williams,
> what he
> writtes. I discovered that they were very often of great value, but
> that
> Mr. Williams has a neat tendency to gentlemanly make some fun at the
> people
> who do not bring real contributions. His humor is sophisticated, very
> british if I may so for a Texien. It seems usually not to be
> understood by
> the concerned person who demonstrates that way the pertinence of Mr.
> Williams' evaluation of him. I must acknowldege that I now have a very
>
> simple gauge to evaluate a forum or a person. If Mr. Jeff Williams'
> contributions on behalf of his INEG Members are of interest: this
> means the
> forum is interesting. I tend also not to keep reading the nincompoops
> who
> filter out his posts. From observation this has saved me hours of
> unecessary reading.
>
> There are some who considers Mr. Jeff Williams as a Jester. I accept
> that
> at some time he uses some understatements to convey an idea, as we all
> do.
> But I would serioulsy advise you to read the URLs that he may bring to
>
> attention for our benefit. To my experience now, at least one major
> issue
> every constituency published on and the NC opposed the world has been
> triggered purposedly by Mr. Jeff Williams. I have all the elements as
> I was
> one of the strings he pulled.
>
> Some oppose Mr. Williams on the grounds of the 114k INEGroup. If you
> carefully look into the IP and mail addresses in different archive you
> will
> be able to trace a few Members of the INEGroup who from time to time
> participate to some ICANN fora (they obviously tend to rely in Mr.
> Williams
> to represent them). Some are known. Some are not. What is interesting
> is
> the impact they have. If someone writes the history of the ICANN I am
> sure
> the INEGroup will have its importance in it.
>
> Please do not think I am joking at you or sharing into some joke. I
> only
> suggest you pay attention to Mr. Jeff Williams posts in another way
> for a
> while as I did afterhaving been explained and I got Mr. Williams on
> the
> phone on several occasions. You may note that he gives his phone
> number and
> you can call him. I must even say for the sake of the truth that I
> have
> been longly on the phone with him and one of his fiercest opponents.
> Legend
> die hard, all the more when hey are usuefull to the one concerned, and
>
> certainly Mr. Jeff Williams partly enjoys the situation wich brings
> him
> many insigths.
>
> For what it may worth.
> Jefsey
>

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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