From: Jeff Williams
Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Re: At Large Secures -- Website - Now, lotto funding!
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:06:01 -0800
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Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
Taking a very quick break here from my ongoing research.
Great news here Eric! Well it looks to me that the funding
problems for the new At-Large is essentially solved with
this wonderful announcement! Well done Eric!
Eric Dierker wrote:
> Great Responses at lunch today,
>
> The principle behind esuperlotto.com says "go for it" or as we say in the year of the horse "go
> for a ride".
>
> So, as soon as there is a proper org to donate too each of our purchased tickets will donate
> one cent to the ALM. Now you can play eSuperlotto and donate to the At-Large.
>
> I also have discussed the matter with another Internet Lottery player and they simply say
> "great when you are ready come to us and we will sign up".
>
> I am promising these people that it will be user oriented and open and transparent and
> bottoms-up. If it is not then all bets are off. ;-}
>
> The Sun is shining, it is about 80 degrees F., waves have good shape there is a slight westerly
> breeze and So. Cal is blooming.
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > Note Jeff we are an online purchasing "AGENT". That means you can contract with us online
> > > to go buy your ticket offline.
> >
> > Understood of course. None the less YOU have been contacted in this
> > suggestion publicly. Time to move forward precipitously!
> >
> > > No where in the United States can you buy a lottery
> > > ticket online. You must ask your buddy to go buy it for you in that state. That is OK
> > > because for each one we go get for you, 39 cents goes to education, that is way cool! At
> > > this point we only run about a ten cent profit, if that. But it is fun and a very good
> > > cause and employs a few.
> >
> > Great! Than there is at least $.01 available for ALM funding!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > But this has great AL funding potential and you are most right that I will exploit that
> > > system to raise money for any legitimate ALM.
> >
> > Ok great! Look forward to hearing of your positive report back to everyone!
> > Be sure it is $$ not *pledges* ok? >;)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > right now I am concentrating on Education and Health care, but I like it and think we can
> > > figure a way to make due.
> >
> > Well if you are too busy, I am sure Pinder can fill in for you on this.
> > Pinder? So perhaps you can just pass along the contact info to
> > Pinder and he can pick up the ball from there? Please advise...
> > If not Pinder, I would be happy to assist...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > What would be a better cause than democracy for the world?
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for you kind response. I am posting it back to the
> > > > ALSC Forum as it originated there. I noticed that there
> > > > may be some discrepancy in what you are asserting below
> > > > and my suggestion however. From:
> > > > http://www.esuperlotto.com/california/superlottoplus/home.htm
> > > > "eSuperLOTTO™ is the premiere online lottery ticket purchasing
> > > > agent
> > > > for the California Lottery Games of United States."
> > > >
> > > > It would seem that what I suggested for a potential funding source
> > > > is indeed possible. Perhaps you can follow up on this using your
> > > > much vaunted marketing skills and get back with everyone on your
> > > > progress with this? Please advise...
> > > >
> > > > Eric Dierker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Good thinking here Jeff,
> > > > >
> > > > > That is not such an unreasonable concept. But it may not work well with
> > > > > that model
> > > > > in that it goes to California Education. It is however very consistent
> > > > > if we work
> > > > > into a proper educational group with internet users.
> > > > > It is very good to note that 39% of the California Lottery goes to
> > > > > education and that
> > > > > includes over 2 million immigrant or children of immigrants.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I must correct your terminology. You cannot buy the ticket online.
> > > > > Someone has
> > > > > to go and physically buy each ticket, that is the service the
> > > > > esuperlotto provides
> > > > >
> > > > > But the gaming industry on the Internet is huge and many give quite
> > > > > generously.
> > > > > Also if we can truly conduct international voting they will be great
> > > > > supporters as this is a very political industry.
> > > > >
> > > > > The travel and convention industry is also very interesting to look at
> > > > > for funding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I am looking, in my copious free time, at a TOPS model that is
> > > > > really cool.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hay Eric, maybe http://www.esuperlotto.com/ would be willing
> > > > > > to *Pledge* $.01 out of every lotto ticket bought to this
> > > > > > new ICANNATLARGE.ORG/COM organization to
> > > > > > boost funding?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric Dierker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then good, the beginning has begun!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We look forward to hearing from you. As of now it will be a
> > > > > > > Euro-Asia-American
> > > > > > > effort.
> > > > > > > Involvement and inclusion with Africans, Middle Easterners and Latin
> > > > > > > Americans
> > > > > > > should be a snap.
> > > > > > > Blessed are the peace makers let us move forward in that regard.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the ICs and Pc Bangs and ccTLDs more later.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At 16:17 20/02/02 -0800, Eric Dierker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >We are ready at once and will have a site up and running as soon as
> > > > > > > > >technically
> > > > > > > > >feasible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I will be in Hong Kong in the Middle of next month for details if need be.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Joop I expect that you will want some technical interfacing with our CTO to
> > > > > > > > >finalize arrangements, that would be CTO@hi-tek.com .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks! First come , first served, as Pindar says.
> > > > > > > > Yes, I will be in touch with him and arrange for hosting of
> > > > > > > > icannatlarge.com, which I just registered.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When Jefsey get icannatlarge.org sorted, he can redirect that Domain to
> > > > > > > > your servers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I am unopposed to using Jefsey's funding model as far as logistics are
> > > > > > > > >concerned.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am not sure of what is exactly required for incorporation in France. (the
> > > > > > > > text of a Constitution, certain mandated clauses, minimum number of
> > > > > > > > incorporator, etc)
> > > > > > > > I would like Jefsey to post the full legal details, so that we can compare
> > > > > > > > with other jurisdictions. We have to avoid a 'competition" of
> > > > > > > > jurisdictions that might deadlock us.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >There is no reason that I have found not to use France as the "corporate"
> > > > > > > > >foundation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I would like to see Internet Cafes and Danny's website incorporated into the
> > > > > > > > >outreach model.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Danny's outreach site is great for a multilingual effort. Please detail
> > > > > > > > here what you would like to suggest for Internet Cafe's.
> > > > > > > > For the moment I'm only after a simple hosting arrangement.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Here is an opportunity, our choice; what will it be?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'll contact your CTO.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --Joop
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > > > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > > > > > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > > > > > Contact Number: 972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > > > > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > > > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > > > Contact Number: 972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number: 972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
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