Re: [ALSC-Forum] Re: At Large Secures -- Website - Now, lotto funding!

[Eric Dierker]

Oh,

Not so, they do not engage in advertising, and at this point would only expect the revenue to the ALM
to be in the hundreds per month.  This can all change in the future and the commitment is there.
Obviously if they had 100k participants contracting for the purchase of ten tickets per week that
would be a different story.  But alas those of us working on the project are really only in it for
fun and our children's education.  That is why they are so happy to give to our at-large.  In a few
months it may even become a real non-profit.

We need more commitments and more revenue sources.

Ownership is key.  A vested interest by someone creates a wonderful opportunity to see that they
participate.
Dassa's earlier post is the kind we need more of.
Thank you Dassa.

I would also invite participants to do their own research into the USG Tops program and the UN Tokten
programs.  If I direct you it would be biased.

As I understand we are moving ahead in the technical, with some thought on cold fusion for voting
mechanisms and everything else going smoothly.  Our legal and structure problems are lagging behind
so the funding issues will probably be ready when they are ready.

Jeff, your INEG Inc. was poised to perform ICANNs' role at one point are you able to provide some
infrastructure and membership donations?

Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
>
>   Taking a very quick break here from my ongoing research.
>
>   Great news here Eric!  Well it looks to me that the funding
> problems for the new At-Large is essentially solved with
> this wonderful announcement!  Well done Eric!
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Great Responses at lunch today,
> >
> > The principle behind esuperlotto.com says "go for it" or as we say in the year of the horse "go
> > for a ride".
> >
> > So, as soon as there is a proper org to donate too each of our purchased tickets will donate
> > one cent to the ALM.  Now you can play eSuperlotto and donate to the At-Large.
> >
> > I also have discussed the matter with another Internet Lottery player and they simply say
> > "great when you are ready come to us and we will sign up".
> >
> > I am promising these people that it will be user oriented and open and transparent and
> > bottoms-up.  If it is not then all bets are off. ;-}
> >
> > The Sun is shining, it is about 80 degrees F., waves have good shape there is a slight westerly
> > breeze and So. Cal is blooming.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> > >
> > > Eric Dierker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Note Jeff we are an online purchasing "AGENT". That means you can contract with us online
> > > > to go buy your ticket offline.
> > >
> > >   Understood of course.  None the less YOU have been contacted in this
> > > suggestion publicly.  Time to move forward precipitously!
> > >
> > > > No where in the United States can you buy a lottery
> > > > ticket online.  You must ask your buddy to go buy it for you in that state.  That is OK
> > > > because for each one we go get for you, 39 cents goes to education, that is way cool!  At
> > > > this point we only run about a ten cent profit, if that.  But it is fun and a very good
> > > > cause and employs a few.
> > >
> > >   Great!  Than there is at least $.01 available for ALM funding!
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But this has great AL funding potential and you are most right that I will exploit that
> > > > system to raise money for any legitimate ALM.
> > >
> > >   Ok great!  Look forward to hearing of your positive report back to everyone!
> > > Be sure it is $$ not *pledges* ok?  >;)
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > right now I am concentrating on Education and Health care, but I like it and think we can
> > > > figure a way to make due.
> > >
> > >   Well if you are too busy, I am sure Pinder can fill in for you on this.
> > > Pinder?  So perhaps you can just pass along the contact info to
> > > Pinder and he can pick up the ball from there?  Please advise...
> > > If not Pinder, I would be happy to assist...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What would be a better cause than democracy for the world?
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> > > > >
> > > > >   Thank you for you kind response.  I am posting it back to the
> > > > > ALSC Forum as it originated there.  I noticed that there
> > > > > may be some discrepancy in what you are asserting below
> > > > > and my suggestion however.  From:
> > > > > http://www.esuperlotto.com/california/superlottoplus/home.htm
> > > > > "eSuperLOTTO™ is the premiere online lottery ticket purchasing
> > > > >                                             agent
> > > > >   for the California Lottery Games of United States."
> > > > >
> > > > > It would seem that what I suggested for a potential funding source
> > > > > is indeed possible.  Perhaps you can follow up on this using your
> > > > > much vaunted marketing skills and get back with everyone on your
> > > > > progress with this?  Please advise...
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Dierker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Good thinking here Jeff,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is not such an unreasonable concept.  But it may not work well with
> > > > > > that model
> > > > > > in that it goes to California Education.  It is however very consistent
> > > > > > if we work
> > > > > > into a proper educational group with internet users.
> > > > > > It is very good to note that 39% of the California Lottery goes to
> > > > > > education and that
> > > > > > includes over 2 million immigrant or children of immigrants.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also I must correct your terminology.  You cannot buy the ticket online.
> > > > > > Someone has
> > > > > > to go and physically buy each ticket, that is the service the
> > > > > > esuperlotto provides
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But the gaming industry on the Internet is huge and many give quite
> > > > > > generously.
> > > > > > Also if we can truly conduct international voting they will be great
> > > > > > supporters as this is a very political industry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The travel and convention industry is also very interesting to look at
> > > > > > for funding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also I am looking, in my copious free time, at a TOPS model that is
> > > > > > really cool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Hay Eric, maybe http://www.esuperlotto.com/ would be willing
> > > > > > > to *Pledge* $.01 out of every lotto ticket bought to this
> > > > > > > new ICANNATLARGE.ORG/COM organization to
> > > > > > > boost funding?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric Dierker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then good, the beginning has begun!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We look forward to hearing from you.  As of now it will be a
> > > > > > > > Euro-Asia-American
> > > > > > > > effort.
> > > > > > > > Involvement and inclusion with Africans, Middle Easterners and Latin
> > > > > > > > Americans
> > > > > > > > should be a snap.
> > > > > > > > Blessed are the peace makers let us move forward in that regard.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On the ICs and Pc Bangs and ccTLDs more later.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > At 16:17 20/02/02 -0800, Eric Dierker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >We are ready at once and will have a site up and running as soon as
> > > > > > > > > >technically
> > > > > > > > > >feasible.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I will be in Hong Kong in the Middle of next month for details if need be.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Joop I expect that you will want some technical interfacing with our CTO to
> > > > > > > > > >finalize arrangements, that would be CTO@hi-tek.com .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!   First come , first served, as Pindar says.
> > > > > > > > > Yes, I will be in touch with him  and arrange for hosting of
> > > > > > > > > icannatlarge.com, which I just registered.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When Jefsey get icannatlarge.org sorted, he can redirect that Domain to
> > > > > > > > > your servers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I am unopposed to using Jefsey's funding model as far as logistics are
> > > > > > > > > >concerned.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am not sure of what is exactly required for incorporation in France. (the
> > > > > > > > > text of a Constitution, certain mandated clauses,  minimum number of
> > > > > > > > > incorporator, etc)
> > > > > > > > > I would like Jefsey to post the full legal details, so that we can compare
> > > > > > > > > with other jurisdictions.  We have to avoid a 'competition" of
> > > > > > > > > jurisdictions that might deadlock us.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >There is no reason that I have found not to use France as the "corporate"
> > > > > > > > > >foundation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I would like to see Internet Cafes and Danny's website incorporated into the
> > > > > > > > > >outreach model.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Danny's outreach site is great for a multilingual effort. Please detail
> > > > > > > > > here what you would like to suggest for Internet Cafe's.
> > > > > > > > > For the moment I'm only after a simple hosting arrangement.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Here is an opportunity, our choice;  what will it be?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll contact your CTO.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --Joop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > > > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > > > > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > > > > > > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > > > > > > Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > > > > > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > > > > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > > > > Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > > > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > > Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208