Re: [ALSC-Forum] ICANN Announcement - At-Large List Names Sought; ALSC Forum ...

[Jeff Williams]

Marilyn and all stakeholders of interested parties,

Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:

>    I note that Denise Michel is   NOT ICANN staff.
>
>
> Really, let's show a little sophistication, here.

  Ok lets do...

>
>
> The average woman on the street can tell the difference between staff
> who are hired by ICANN and someone who is managing a process, with
> independent funding.

  Of course they can.  That is in part why I have to agree with Bills
comments
by in large..  Esther has time and time again tried to "Game" the
At-Large
efforts for more then 2 years in various ways.  Her recent attempts are
just
a different twist that leads to confusion that is obviously purposeful
despite
her insistence of some other motivations this time around.  A leopard
does
not change it's spots Marilyn...

>
>
> It is a very hard task, by the way, that latter one..

  It is yes.  I will concede that as I have done it myself along with
help from
many others.   But to purposefully confuse or interject it with ICANN
and
her history of not supporting any At-Large that is open to any and all
interested parties as the MoU requires is just plain "Gaming"....

>
>
> Show some recognition for that.
>
> I don't agree with your perspective AT ALL.

  Well somehow I am in this instance not surprised.  You yourself do not

want and have publicly stated such, that any and all stakeholders should

in any At-Large for ICANN have any say or vote in any policy making
issues on your BC secret list....  So Marilyn, you are simply not
shooting
straight yet again.  But that too is not all that unexpected given you
lobbyist
for AT&T activities.  An occupational hazard that has likely developed
into
a rather nasty habit I suppose...

>
>
> Marilyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William S. Lovell [mailto:wsl@cerebalaw.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 6:38 PM
> To: James Love
> Cc: Denise Michel ALSC; forum@atlargestudy.org
> Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] ICANN Announcement - At-Large List Names
> Sought; ALSC Forum ...
>
>
>
>
> James Love wrote:
>
>
> What do you and the rest of the ICANN staff mean by "at large
> structures."
> Is this the ICANN way of saying it will do the Lynn plan, where you
> don't
> recognize any single structure to formally represent the public, but
> you
> have these consultations with various groups, that have zero votes on
> anything?   I note that the Lynn plan doesn't have much of a role for
> users
> or the public in general other than to have some PR staff person talk
> to
> them.
>
> Jamie
>
> That's the way I've interpreted it as well.  The money Esther Dyson
> speaks of goes
> to ICANN, to be spent as it sees fit, and I've earlier characterized
> that Announcement
> thing as "divide and conquer."  It's typical ICANN chicanery.
>
> Bill Lovell
>
>
>
>
> --------------------from the Lynn proposal------
>
> 2.  Manager of Public Participation
>   a) Responsible for managing the public comment and participation
> process
> for ICANN on all substantive matters. Will solicit, receive and report
> to
> the Board on all public input on matters put out for public comment.
>
>   b) Responsible for managing all ICANN public forums, public e-mail
> list,
> etc. Provided necessary electronic access to publicize findings and
> recommendations, all of which will be available to the public.
>
>   c) Provided with support staff and other resources necessary to
> carry out
> responsibilities effectively
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Denise Michel ALSC"   <mailto:dmichel@atlargestudy.org>
> <dmichel@atlargestudy.org>
> To:   <mailto:forum@atlargestudy.org> <forum@atlargestudy.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 0
>
> 2, 2002 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] ICANN Announcement - At-Large List Names
> Sought;
> ALSC Forum ...
>
>
>
> Ok.  As someone who was just elected for a 90 day panel working on
> this,
> what do you mean by "facilitate the creation of At-Large structures."?
>
> Are there some services you are able to provide efforts such as the
> one
>
> that
>
> I got roped into?
>
> Jamie
>
>
> What services is icannatlarge.com looking for?
>
> Currently, I'm doing outreach to identify individuals/groups worldwide
>
> interested in organizing At-Large structures, looking for common
>
> objectives
>
> and interests relevant to Internet users and ICANN's mission, and
> establishing mechanisms for coordination and cooperation among
> (current/future) at-large structures.
>
> Denise
>
> Denise Michel
> dmichel@atlargestudy.org

Regards,
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